What Melody Barnes Said
Ben
Wednesday, November 11, 2009 at 09:07AM White House Domestic Policy Council Director Melody Barnes’s talk, “Law and Domestic Policy in the Obama Administration,” was not about same sex marriage. But despite Barnes’s motivational admonitions and enlightening comments about education, economic, and health policy, the moment that many of the 250 or so students, professors, and alums who crammed into EW 120 and overflowed into the hallways are perhaps most likely to remember from the talk was the first question of the Q&A. That was when 1L Paul Sousa read a several minute long point-by-point critique of President Obama’s opposition to same sex marriage in favor of civil unions. Sousa described civil unions as a Plessy-style separate-but-equal substitute for genuine marriage equality, and concluded his question by asking for Barnes’s personal views. As Sousa’s question/statement went on and many in the audience grew visibly perturbed, Barnes remained a picture of attentive composure, and her answer was, to most in attendance, thoughtful but unremarkable. It was the question that appeared to have made the biggest impression, and it seemed like things would end there.
And then within hours of the event being over, two prominent journalists had weighed in, and anonymous sources at the White House were issuing clarifications.
Just a week before Barnes’s comments, a slim majority of Maine voters, some number of them no doubt influenced by BC Law Professor Scott Fitzgibbon’s ominous ad about the dangers of “homosexual marriage,” chose to repeal legislation legalizing same sex marriage in their state. Next week the BC Law Federalist Society is slated to host Maggie Gallagher, president of the National Organization for Marriage, who has been one of the most outspoken voices in opposition to marriage equality. And as Barnes walked to the room where she delivered her remarks, she undoubtedly passed scores of flyers ubiquitous at BC picturing the faces of students and professors proclaiming their support for marriage equality and the GLBT community. This is a school in the midst of sorting out its identity as a Jesuit institution - where traditional Catholic doctrine on marriage and the family run up against the progressive legacy of the beloved and famously Pro-Choice former Dean - Father Drinan - and a student body who came to BC largely for reasons unrelated to religious affiliation. So perhaps it should be unsurprising that in the current climate at BC Law, the issue of same sex marriage managed to make a splash far out of proportion to the time it occupied in Barnes’s remarks.
First, there was a tweet from Matthew Cooper, of Plame-gate fame: “Melody Barnes, top Obama advisor, voiced support for marriage equality at Boston College Law School today.” This was followed by a story from the Huffington Post’s Sam Stein, who had been tipped off by Sousa and quoted him and event organizer Britt Mosman. Stein proclaimed that this could make Barnes “perhaps the highest-ranking White House official to signal support for same sex marriage.” Stein’s story was then updated several times to reflect sequential statements from an anonymous White House source who first denied that Barnes had said anything about “her personal views on marriage equality or other issues,” and then, perhaps an hour later, added that in any case, Barnes’s “personal views on issues are irrelevant to her work of advancing the administration’s agenda.” Comments from BC Law Professor Kent Greenfield were added shortly thereafter, downplaying the significance of anything Barnes had said about marriage.
So, what exactly did Barnes say that was newsworthy? The school has yet to post a video, but from detailed notes of her remarks, Barnes said essentially the following: “I appreciate your disappointment . The President has articulated a number of ways that he wants to move the ball forward for GLBT Americans … I accept that this is different than what you’re talking about. What you’re talking about is something that’s fundamental. With regard to my own views … I come to them based on relationships I’ve had with friends and their relationships that I respect and the children they’re raising. And that is something that I support. But when I walk into the White House, I work to put all the arguments in front of the President and as you say, I also work for the President… His plans are to move the ball forward in the ways I described. He hasn’t stated a shift in his position there.”
There’s no explicit “I believe same sex couples should have the right to marry,” but Barnes’s view is clear. She supports marriage equality. Good for her for saying so. Understandably, any administration wants to present a unified public face, and administration officials lobbying the President in public is a no-no. But Barnes kept on the right side of a fine line for a trusted advisor - while she conveyed her personal views, she also conveyed the President’s position and her commitment to advancing the President’s agenda while “working to put all the arguments in front of him.” Obama has gone out of his way to choose members of his administration who disagree with him on issues ranging from the Iraq war to abortion rights, and he’s a better president for it. What’s surprising is not that Melody Barnes indicated her support for marriage equality - a natural view for anyone committed to civil rights and a position wholly within the Democratic mainstream - but that many other high ranking officials in an ideologically diverse administration have not.
[Slightly revised from the original]




Reader Comments (7)
Hi Ben. Thanks for posting those detailed notes of what Ms. Barnes actually stated which supports what I said -- that Ms. Barnes does indeed support marriage equality. That anonymous White House official's statement saying Barnes didn't discuss her personal views on the subject was an outright lie.
This is completely off-topic, but I was really wowed by Ben's assertion that "Obama has gone out of his way to choose members of his administration who disagree with him on issues ranging from the Iraq war to abortion rights." Since this might reflect an erroneous public perception that Obama is interested in any common ground on abortion, here's a partial list of the President's appointees and nominees to important positions who are publicly pro-choice, many of them extremely so:
Domestic Policy Council Director Melody Barnes (former board member of EMILY's List and Planned Parenthood; former chief counsel to the late pro-choice Senator Ted Kennedy)
Director of White House Office of Health Reform Nancy-Ann DeParle
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (winner, Margaret Sanger Award)
Executive Director of White House Council on Women and Girls and Director of White House Office of Public Engagement Christina Tchen (former chapter vice-president for the pro-choice group NOW; NOW on the new Council: "We asked for a Cabinet-level office to work on women's issues, and we got the entire Cabinet.")
Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Kathleen Sebelius (her very close ties to the late late-term abortionist George Tiller and other persons on the extreme fringe held up her nomination for a while, but she made the cut anyway)
Almost-HHS Secretary Tom Daschle (withdrew after that tax thing)
Deputy Health Care Director Jeanne Lambow
Nominee to head the Office of Legal Counsel Dawn Johnsen (lawyer and legal director for NARAL Pro-Choice America, 1988-1993)
Attorney General Eric Holder
Deputy Attorney General David Ogden
Solicitor General Elena Kagan
Food and Drug Administration director Margaret Hamburg (ran abortion counseling and family-planning centers in NYC under Giuliani)
Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano
Advisor for Science and Technology, Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, and Co-Chair of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology John Holdren
Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar
Labor Secretary Hilda Solis
Central Intelligence Agency director Leon Panetta
Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack
Sean: What would "common ground on abortion" look like for you?
The detailed notes are pretty accurate - from what I remember. I'll wait for the video for a definite conclusion. I still think there is room for her and other administration officials to claim that she did not express support for marriage equality. It all depends on what you think "And that is something that I support" is referring to. Relationships and the children of friends? Or same-sex marriage?
On the other hand, I think that reading the subtext into her comments makes it clear that she supports same-sex marriage -- regardless of whether she actually did say it.
Again, color me the skeptic, but who cares if Melody Barnes believes same sex marriage should be legal? Or that she differs from Barack Obama on this issue?
Dick Cheney and George W. Bush did not agree on this issue either and that certainly did not change the White House's position on the issue.
Barack Obama will not act on same sex marriage until it is politically expedient for him to do so. While he says he does not personally support it, I think if Congress handed him a bill granting the federal rights and benefits of marriage to same sex couples, he'd sign it. Granted, he isn't going to ask for one or intercede when this battle is being waged on the state-level. And Melody Barnes' opinion isn't going to mean a damn thing in changing that.
I think Ben makes a salient point re: Sean's point of view. What I would consider some common ground would be what we saw with the Stupak Amendment - having the government not fund abortion. The question of whether abortion should be legal or restricted in any way is not on the table as far as I'm concerned or anyone in Obama's adminstration should be concerned. So if that is the common ground that Sean or others want to see, I'm fine with Obama remaining the flaming liberal I'm sure he's seen to be by many. The Supreme Court has ruled on that issue and it isn't up for debate from White House officials until Congress amends the Constitution to make it illegal. Isn't that how conservatives like it to work or am I crazy (see: 2nd Amendment).
Ben, your own example of how Obama could seek common ground would be great. He could stock some of the most important policy positions, especially those dealing with health and science, not to mention the commission on women and girls, with some dissenters. At the least, the advisor pool might reflect a little more of the public's attitudes. Lincoln, one of Obama's idols, picked people that disagreed with him so much, they gave him constant headaches about it. He did it so his Cabinet would reflect the political landscape. Modern administrations are much more extensive than just the Cabinet, so there's lots more room for that.
TwoL, don't forget that the Stupak amendment was the result of fear on Capitol Hill that the entire thing would go down in flames were it not for that last-minute saving change. I'm sure the party calculated that a little loss on abortion was better than losing the whole prize. Also, the amendment only came about after repeated, repeated statements by both the Administration and the bill's supporters in Congress that abortion would not be federally funded -- which didn't fool even media outlets like Time and the AP, who took issue with these constant and deliberate misdirections. So no, I disagree that the Administration has no effect on abortion. It can still do quite a bit of damage.